2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

April 21, 2012 3:23 am
what about shea mcc the kid out of bosie olb de cant remmber how to spell his last name
could he be the pick at 24
bks56
SinceMar 24, 2009
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

April 21, 2012 8:59 am
Where is Josh Chatman NT Alabama on the board?
hanjonquinanglz
SinceJan 24, 2007
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

April 21, 2012 9:01 am
I mean Josh Chapman
hanjonquinanglz
SinceJan 24, 2007
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

April 21, 2012 9:03 am
Shea McClellin-  I don't think the Steelers need another OLB,  They have bigger needs to address in the draft.



smcndfan
SinceFeb 18, 2008
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

April 21, 2012 9:49 am
Shea McClellin-  I don't think the Steelers need another OLB,  They have bigger needs to address in the draft.
Considering Harrison's health issues, the general consensus that Worilds is failing and how important it is to have duel threats to rush the passer on both sides of the line in Lebeau's scheme I think the position is at a high need going into the draft.

And i don't like McClellin for the Steelers.

Square peg round hole.
ironmanbednarik
SinceJul 18, 2007
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

April 21, 2012 11:19 am
Where is Josh Chatman NT Alabama on the board?
He is at 50 right now, out of 188 possible selections the Steelers might make.

I don't necessarily agree with Shea McClellan not being a fit, but I do like other players rated in his range as being closer to exact fits.

Watching path to the draft, several of the DE/OLB players were better fits for the 4-3, according to a Bears Director of personell.

Wild stab in the dark here, BPA at 24 just might be Stephen Hill on Colberts board. Kid is a good blocker and has terrific speed, hands, and ran sharp routes at his pro day. His prodcution is skewed downward because of the crazy offense that Georgia Tech runs. But he gave full effort even when he was not part of the play, sounds like a Steeler WR to me.

nybites
SinceSep 4, 2007
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

April 21, 2012 12:03 pm

In a poll of 20 NFL scouts, Justin Blackmon was rated as the best receiver in the 2012 draft class, by a hair over Michael Floyd.

The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel assigned "points" from the poll, asking each scout to rate the receivers 1-5. Blackmon (92 points) finished just ahead of Floyd (85). Kendall Wright (43 points) was No. 3, Rueben Randle (26) fourth, and Stephen Hill (21) fifth. Alshon Jeffery (20), Mohamed Sanu (5), A.J. Jenkins (4), and T.Y Hilton (2) rounded out the top nine. Arkansas' Joe Adams and Appalachian State's Brian Quick tied for 10th with one point apiece.



According to research from ESPN Florida's Charlie Bernstein, only 40 percent (18 of 45) wide receivers drafted in the first round from 2000-2010 have panned out.

One ray of light is that seven of the past eight first-round receivers have been solid. Bernstein finds that second-round receivers have a 22.4 percent (11 of 49) hit rate while those drafted in the third round succeed at just 15 percent (8 of 55). Of the 215 receivers drafted from Rounds 4-7, only 14 (6.5 percent) have emerged as solid contributors.
smcndfan
SinceFeb 18, 2008
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

April 21, 2012 5:02 pm
Anyone see that Alfonso Dennard was arrested for assaulting a police officer. I don't get these idiots.
steelroc74
SinceSep 3, 2008
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

April 21, 2012 6:20 pm
Alfonso Dennard was already kicked off the War Board, we saw his stupidity before this latest escapade. I wonder if his agent is sitting at a ba right now, slurring his speach, trying to say the word azzh0le. Sort of like a real estate agent who signs a big booking only to find out the house has termites........  Tongue out

Anyone catch Hello Rookie 2008. Mendenhall just bought a saxophone after he was drafted. I don't hate the kid, he makes dumb tweets, and cost us the Super Bowl, but other than that, he's okay in my book...... Surprised

When putting together the final War Board, one area we need to get dead nuts correct is the guys rated late 2- early 4, specifically round 3 I thnk is where the meat and potatoes is. There are some real strong candidates that are targetted for picks 64-95, Pittsburgh gets one player, who is it.  Some of the guys in this discussion:

Alameda Ta'Mau
Isiah Pead
Brandon Brooks
Josh Chapman
Mike Martin
Mitchell Schwartz
Ladarius Green
Derek Wolfe
TY Hilton
nybites
SinceSep 4, 2007
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

April 21, 2012 6:29 pm
Pittsburgh gets one player, who is it.  Some of the guys in this discussion:
If he's there in the 3rd give me Chapman - even ahead of Marvin Jones, whom I absolutely love in the 3rd.
beachbum312
SinceSep 17, 2006
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

April 21, 2012 7:16 pm
Brooks, he's versatile can play both guard and tackle, he'll help solidify the o-line for years, and help the running game out drastically.
steelroc74
SinceSep 3, 2008
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

April 21, 2012 7:53 pm
Well it really depends on who they draft first, but I'll assume they get a guard by then so I'll say Chapman. Perfect 3-4 NT but if they haven't gone OLine yet than Brooks.
steelers=sb
SinceOct 18, 2007
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

April 21, 2012 7:56 pm

Steelers

El Patron
SinceDec 20, 2008
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

April 21, 2012 10:21 pm
EL,

You should have taken Hebron Fangupo with one of those three 4th rounders, it was a no-brainer.  Donald Stephenson is a guy who probably translates to OG at the next level and the shoulder injury scares me a bit. I might have even considered Robert Turbin as one of the 4th rounders, to get value. I don't like the Josh Norman pick, he is probably going to be a FS in the NFL. Keenan Robinson, I know PIttsburgh is going to look at ILB at some point, the guys I like are rated for lower rounds.  Robinson looked average at the combine and at his pro day, not something that POPS at you.


I like the Ravens draft better to this point.

nyb
nybites
SinceSep 4, 2007
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

April 21, 2012 10:40 pm

Ok, i pick on 5.12 and we are on 5.4, so who would u pick? i am thinking on drafting with this pick: OLB or CB or RB.

what do u say?

El Patron
SinceDec 20, 2008
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

April 22, 2012 10:37 am

what do u say?

no idea. just find Steelers and don't reach. You see this thread, see who we like.

Jerry Frankin, Sean Loisseau, and Noah Keller are Steeler type of LB's the guy you went with we don't even have on our board.

I like the FS group: 

144    Matt Daniels     FS    Duke
162    Justin Bethel    FS    Presbyterian

nybites
SinceSep 4, 2007
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

April 22, 2012 10:44 am

El Patron,

TY  Hilton is the right pick for the Steelers in your mock.

The Steelers also brought in Oliver Veron, OLB, Miami for a visit, he is on their radar.

If you want to pick a RB, Ronnie Hillman SD is still available.

nyb

nybites
SinceSep 4, 2007
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

April 22, 2012 10:56 am
so i was thinking on Ronnie Hillman and Kheeston Randall
El Patron
SinceDec 20, 2008
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

April 22, 2012 10:43 am
well, the guys ive drafted are: 12, 54, 97 and 118, idk we u dont have Donald Stephenson on your list. he is considered a great prospect for the Steelers for his agility.
El Patron
SinceDec 20, 2008
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

April 22, 2012 10:50 am

u dont have Donald Stephenson on your list. he is considered a great prospect for the Steelers for his agility.



Donald Stephenson is not thick in the lower body and is coming off a shoulder injury.  That is why is he not on our board along with the following on his profile.  He sounds like he is stuck in the mud, and won't pull worth beans.

Weaknesses: Heavy footed and lacks elite lateral ability ? will struggle with speed rushers and footwork is a work in progress. Bends too much at the waist and overextends himself ? often caught lunging and leaning. Has inconsistent get-off quickness and lacks the natural burst to maintain balance and block in space. Extends his arms, but has soft hands and doesn?t jolt rushers. Tends to leave his feet too often and whiffs on moving targets ? needs to keep his head up, butt low and stay balanced. Struggles with pre-snap awareness and needs to stay disciplined to recognize extra rushers. Will get lazy at times with his fundamentals and needs to eliminate several bad habits. Needs to develop more of a finishing attitude and overall mean streak. Still very green and has much learning to do.

nybites
SinceSep 4, 2007
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

April 22, 2012 11:01 am

Irishdawg42 4th Annual Collaborative Draft Results:

1. Dont'a Hightower LB Alabama
2. Kelechi Osemele OT/OG Washington
3. Brandon Brooks OT/OG Miami Ohio
4. Derek Wolfe DT/DE Cincinatti
5. Brandon Lindley QB San Diego State
6. Cordaro Law  OLB  S. Missippi
7. Justin Bethel FS Presbyterian
7c-1. Coty Sensabaugh CB Clemson
7c-2. Michael Smith RB Utah State
7c-3. Sean Loisseau LB Merrimack
U. Delvin Johnson NT Marshall
U. Kyle Wilber OLB Wake Forest
U. Dale Moss WR South Dakota State
U. Derek Carrier TE Beloit
U. Noah Keller LB Ohio U.  

nybites
SinceSep 4, 2007
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

April 22, 2012 11:47 am
That would be an awesome draft..my only complaint would be only getting an undrafted NT but you can't get everything.  Love the Brandon Lindley pick, we need a young QB with potential to coach up.
Jake33
SinceOct 29, 2006
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

April 22, 2012 3:47 pm
Off hand does anyone know if the Steelers have shown interest in Loisseau, Keller, or Law? Would love to see at least one of them. 
steelers=sb
SinceOct 18, 2007
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

April 22, 2012 4:14 pm
btw nyb, Ryan Lindley not Brandon Lindley


1. Dont'a Hightower-At 24 I think Gilmore, Cox, Glenn, and Mercilus will be gone, and even if one is there still think they'd do Hightower. Don't like Fleener or Martin, Adams should never have been on the board, Brockers is a maybe. I don't see them reaching for a guard.
2. Kelechi Osemele-Would love to see Silatolu but I have a hard time believing he will be there at 56, Osemele is still a good choice. 
3. Trumaine Johnson-CB or a S
4. Mike Martin-Not the best NT, but he is value at this point and the Steelers seem to really like him
5. Lucas Nix-Steelers like him, and he can play multiple positions 
6. Vick Ballard-Sleeper
7. Austin Davis-Developmental guy will probably would compete with Troy Smith for the 3rd spot
7. Cordaro Law-OLB Depth
7. Shaun Loiseau-Steeler type player at linebacker
7. Chase Ford-Athletic and big TE 
steelers=sb
SinceOct 18, 2007
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

April 22, 2012 5:43 pm
Hillman and Randle ok, still liking TY Hilton

nybites
SinceSep 4, 2007
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

April 22, 2012 8:01 pm
El Patron
SinceDec 20, 2008
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

April 22, 2012 10:40 pm
Vick Ballard is a power back.

Already on the roster expected to be on the 53 man:

Isaac Redman
Jonathon Dwyer
John Clay

all big power backs. Pittsburgh needed a speed back, change of pace. Todd Haley needs to make the offense less predicable and you need a third down threat out of the backfield, Ballard is NOT that guy.


I like Vick Ballard but if you don't give him an open roster spot to try and make the team out of camp he could just be fodder and a waste of a 5th round pick.( see Frank Summers from 2010)


nybites
SinceSep 4, 2007
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

April 23, 2012 6:30 am
Rob Rang's latest Mock Draft has us taking OT Mike Adams round 1..   ARGH!#(#@#*)(#@*)(#*)(#@  Thank god its only a mock and he is not pullng the trigger Thursday nght.

enjoy,

bb

burghball
SinceJan 4, 2007
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

April 23, 2012 11:15 am

1. Dont'a Hightower LB Alabama
2. Kelechi Osemele OT/OG Washington
3. Brandon Brooks OT/OG Miami Ohio
4. Derek Wolfe DT/DE Cincinatti
5. Brandon Lindley QB San Diego State
6. Cordaro Law  OLB  S. Missippi
7. Justin Bethel FS Presbyterian
7c-1. Coty Sensabaugh CB Clemson
7c-2. Michael Smith RB Utah State
7c-3. Sean Loisseau LB Merrimack
U. Delvin Johnson NT Marshall
U. Kyle Wilber OLB Wake Forest
U. Dale Moss WR South Dakota State
U. Derek Carrier TE Beloit
U. Noah Keller LB Ohio U.  


Nice work Bites!
SteelPumpkin75
SinceJul 17, 2008
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

April 23, 2012 11:36 am
5. Brandon Lindley QB San Diego State

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I think should be Ryan not Brandon Lindsey....  Brandon is the de/olb from pitt - no thanks

Kyle Wilber is a Steal as an UFA... kd looked real good in post season bowls.

enjoy,

bb

burghball
SinceJan 4, 2007