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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 29, 2012 10:11 am

Yell



Really CBS .....REALLY ??????



Something about middle aged ladies that like to have FUN Kiss
bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 29, 2012 10:28 am

it's 10:30 in the am and its already 90 out Yell


give anything for a nice cool refreshing Canadian breeze


Mano send some of that stuff our way ..



Or Else ............Sealed
bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 29, 2012 11:35 am

give anything for a nice cool refreshing Canadian breeze
Hope your talking about the drink and not the stink..Tongue outSealed


j/k mano...never been up North, don't really know how bad the stench is, but it took them Centuries to bath regularly in France, so that is all I have to go on..Laughing


Irish Dawg 42
SinceOct 6, 2006
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 29, 2012 12:21 pm

Browns quarterback Brandon Weeden has yet to sign his rookie contract, and he appears to be getting antsy about the situation.

Weeden and other members of the Browns’ 2012 draft class participated this morning in the NFL Rookie Symposium PLAY 60 Youth Football Clinic in Berea. The Browns have signed nine of their 11 picks from this year’s class.

Weeden, the 22nd overall pick, and running back Trent Richardson, the third overall selection, are the exceptions. Both are expected to become immediate starters.

When asked for an update about the status of his contract, Weeden said, “What’s the politically correct answer here? I wish it was done, but I don’t know. It’ll get done. We’re working. It takes two sides, though.”

On June 11, Weeden told the Beacon Journal he would sign before training camp.

Is he still confident that will be the case?

“I hope so,” Weeden said. “I don’t want that $30,000 fine.”

As for Richardson, he reiterated he’s waiting for the top two overall picks, Indianapolis Colts quarterback Andrew Luck and Washington Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III, to sign before completing his deal.

“For me, I think I’m really just waiting on one and two to get done,” Richardson said. “Then when the big guys get done, I can sign

Riff-Raff714
SinceApr 17, 2009
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 29, 2012 12:30 pm

when i was staioned in Germany a couple of us decided to take a train ride to Paris ..YUK Yell


Talk about a nasty dirty stinking rude ovverated city & country .

i got my picture took by the tower ..peed on Doors frontman Jim Morisons grave site  .. thats what people do for some reason. its all coverd in graffti and ....i guess its a sign of respect Undecided

the highlight was puching out the rude cab driver that dropped us off at the train station to head back to Germany . the French really do hate us for some reason . we should have let the Germans keep it . at least it would have been clean  .


save your $$$$$ . avoid Paris is my best advice .our expierence wasnt at all pleaseant . 


good thing Canada didnt pick up there rude nasty habits . everywhere i have been to up North has been cool . i loved Toronto .


blowing off racing tonight ..just to hot & nasty to do it Frown
Riff-Raff714
SinceApr 17, 2009
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 29, 2012 1:28 pm

Better than 2011? The Browns are convinced that Weeden’s strong arm will make the receivers and the offense better than last year.

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As the Browns prepare to embark their second season under Pat Shurmur there are many questions that remain. With training camp opening Sat. July 28, we’re going to take a position-by-position analysis of the current roster as the team heads to camp over the next few weeks.

We start with the quarterback position.

Candidates: Brandon Weeden, Colt McCoy, Seneca Wallace and Thaddeus Lewis.

The hottest topic around the Browns naturally surrounds the quarterback position. Until Shurmur declares ‘officially’ that Weeden is the starter, the talk will continue.

Weeden (6-3, 220, rookie, Oklahoma State) -- Weeden was taken 22nd overall and he is the heavy favorite to be the starter when the Browns open the season against the Eagles on Sept. 9. He displayed everything you want to see in a franchise quarterback during the rookie OTAs, the OTAs and the mandatory minicamp. The first thing you want to see in a quarterback is throwing the ball and Weeden showed he can make all of the throws.

However, all of what he has done so far has been in shorts without a pass rush. His biggest challenge will being able to thoroughly understanding the offense, handling pressure from the pass rush and being able to read NFL defenses.

McCoy (6-1, 215, 3rd season, Texas)—Last year’s starter, McCoy faces an uphill battle to retain his starting job. McCoy’s battle might be more for the backup position, rather than the starter. However, there is a sentiment among many that think the Browns will either trade or release McCoy before the regular season begins.

McCoy is just 25 and would appear to be a stronger backup than Wallace, given the fact that McCoy played ahead of Wallace until he was injured. That along with the fact he is under contract for about one fourth of the salary being paid to Wallace is a reason to keep him. McCoy has started 21 games in the NFL with a 6-15 record. McCoy threw 14 touchdowns last season while throwing 11 interceptions. His rating was 74.6.

Wallace (5-11, 205, 10th season, Iowa State)—Wallace will turn 32 on Aug. 6 and he has been a career backup. He took over after McCoy was knocked out last year and was unimpressive. He finished the season with a 65.4 rating. He threw two touchdowns and had two interceptions. Wallace was outspoken about not feeling like it was his job to be the mentor to McCoy in the West Coast offense, but has said he welcomes being the mentor to Weeden. He said during minicamp that he wouldn’t be happy being the third quarterback and said he didn’t think both he and McCoy would be with the team at the start of the season.

Lewis (6-2, 200, 2nd season, Duke)—Lewis is the least known commodity on the roster after being picked up after the preseason last year. He has only played in preseason games and has yet to play in a regular season game. Lewis’ only hope to stick with the Browns is if they move either McCoy or Wallace to make room for him.

Better than 2011? The Browns are convinced that Weeden’s strong arm will make the receivers and the offense better than last year. The other three quarterbacks are still on the roster with another year in the system. The Browns need to decide if they keep McCoy and Wallace to go along with Weeden. It might not be a bad idea given the fact that the Browns have had just one quarterback play all 16 games in a season since 1999.

(Next: Running backs)


bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 29, 2012 2:07 pm

McCoy is just 25 and would appear to be a stronger backup than Wallace, given the fact that McCoy played ahead of Wallace until he was injured. That along with the fact he is under contract for about one fourth of the salary being paid to Wallace is a reason to keep him. McCoy has started 21 games in the NFL with a 6-15 record. McCoy threw 14 touchdowns last season while throwing 11 interceptions. His rating was 74.6.

Wallace will turn 32 on Aug. 6 and he has been a career backup. He took over after McCoy was knocked out last year and was unimpressive. He finished the season with a 65.4 rating. He threw two touchdowns and had two interceptions. Wallace was outspoken about not feeling like it was his job to be the mentor to McCoy in the West Coast offense, but has said he welcomes being the mentor to Weeden.

FINALLY . . . a writer with some common sense.

74.6 (while not great) is still better than 65.4 with both ratings generated with the same supporting cast.  Couple that with Seneca's unwillingness to help the TEAM by helping McCoy and add in the minor detail about $$$$$.  Take the 75% of Wallace's salary saved and spend it on an experienced player in an area of need who, no doubt, will be released by someone prior to the season.


Back to nap time.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Lymanacoconut
SinceSep 4, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 29, 2012 2:20 pm

that writer would be Fred Greetham from the OBR ..Best Browns site bar non for info & chat
bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 29, 2012 2:56 pm

I'm with you Ly. the numbers should make this an easy decision, but the drumbeats don't sound that way. Even the analysis put forth by so many, always end up with the general notion that McCoy is on a countdown to exit, just waiting for the situation to make itself known, and he is gone.

I still think he's the better choice, and the fact that Seneca put himself above the team is troubling. For a player to come out and say that is bad, but to think he "can" is worse. I refer to B Watson's comment about the culteral difference between Cleveland and New England: "they expect to win", well I thnk it goes beyond that, and players making statements like Seneca, leaves me wondering what kind of culture we have in Browntown.

I feel like Colt's demise in the eyes of team mgt, is somehow linked to the concussion and surrounding aftermath with his family. A soft reason to include, in my opinion, and far less destructive to the team than Seneca's refusal to help a team mate. Both are "soft" elements in evaluating who's to go, but still part of the evaluation. I thnk Colt is suffering from last ;year's awful season, and has to wear it as his own, maybe a little unfairly, but it is his. I believe fans want that season removed from memory and so Colt leaving helps to turn the page, but is irrational.

The rational choice is Colt, but if the right deal comes along and Colt is the price, so be it.
kendawg
SinceNov 8, 2006
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 30, 2012 7:36 am

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The holdup on Brandon Weeden's contract -- and that of the three players picked behind him -- is a fully guaranteed contract for all four years, league sources said today.

It's the same issue that caused Browns defensive tackle Phil Taylor, the No. 21 overall pick last year, to hold out for the first four days of training camp.

With the NFL's new rookie slotting system, guaranteed money is usually the only point of contention. Weeden, the No. 22 overall pick, is set to receive a four-year deal worth about $8.1 million, but is intent on the fourth-year guarantee as opposed to the three that many players late in the round receive.

Ultimately, the Browns and Taylor agreed last year to a combination guaranteed base/roster bonus for 2014 instead of the full guarantee. The $750,000 roster bonus, due in early March, forces the Browns to make an early decision on whether or not to keep Taylor for the year. His base for the final year is also $750,000. Overall, his deal was worth four years, $8.1 million.

Weeden, who participated in the NFL Play 60 in Berea Friday as part of the rookie symposium, said he's still hopeful a deal will get done before training camp, which opens to the public July 28th. Rookies report a few days earlier.

"It'll get done,'' said Weeden, one of 14 unsigned first-rounders including teammate Trent Richardson. "We’re working. It takes two sides, though.''

If the Browns decide not to budge on the guaranteed fourth year, Weeden will most likely have to settle for the combination guarantee/roster bonus that Taylor received.

Last year, picks one through 16 -- and No. 20 pick Adrian Clayborn of the Bucs -- received all four years fully guaranteed. This year, picks one through 16 received the four years and picks 17, 18 and 19 got the combo package. No. 20 overall pick Kendall Wright remains unsigned by the Titans, presumably because he's working off Clayborn's fully-guaranteed four-year deal from last year.

This year's No. 21 overall pick, defensive end Chandler Jones of New England, signed a four-year deal worth $8.17 million, but didn't receive the roster bonus in the fourth year that Taylor secured, according to profootballtalk.com.

The Browns still have almost a month to resolve the issue, but sources expect Weeden to be in on time, especially considering he's set to be the starting quarterback.

As for No. 3 overall pick Richardson, his holdup is likely tied to the "offset language'' that clubs want in the contract. Offset language means that if a player with a guaranteed contract is let go and signs with another club, the original team is off the hook for the portion of the salary paid by the new club. For example, if Richardson were due $5 million in 2015 and his new team paid him $4 million, the Browns would owe him $1 million.

Offset language is the major reason the first eight picks have yet to sign, a source said.

"For me, I think I’m really just waiting on one and two (Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin) to get done," Richardson said at NFL Play 60. "Then when the big guys get done, I can sign.''

Richardson will receive a four-year guaranteed contract worth close to $21 million.


DuffBeerDoug
SinceOct 25, 2006
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 30, 2012 8:53 am

@ $8.1M and a nearly guarenteed start as a rookie...This is squabbling...The only thing I can see as a hold up is if the league is colluding to these contracts, telling GMs not to fully garentee them after such and such a pick. There has to be SOME leeway in these negotiations though. Heck, in the past, the QB would get more money than the player above him, just because he played QB..I would think this type of incentive for a team to get a QB signed and in camp on time would be in play.

IF, the Browns do not want to keep Weeden for his 4th year, then it will be a major bust that is much worse than the $1.5M in guarenteed money they are haggling over!

GET IT DONE, so that Weeden can relax the last few weeks before training camp opens!


Irish Dawg 42
SinceOct 6, 2006
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 30, 2012 12:30 pm

Weeden gets all the attention (naturally) and Richardson gets all the money...
WahooJake
SinceSep 1, 2008
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

July 1, 2012 1:49 am

i thought i was a gonner here . i was reading my own obituary  during Fri afternoon storm  came blowing through here  . it just came up with no real warning . 90 mph straight winds flattned everything . uprooting trees that had been in the ground for a very very long time leaving them across the streets and on peoples homes & cars  . semi trucks getting tossed around like tonka toys . one about fell on my car . i have never ever saw anything like it not even when i was stationed in tornado alley in Oklahoma . i just got my power back on . thankful for that . there are still thousands  without it.   


Mother Nature is a...........Yell Sealed



no sense in this crapola .


next job dumping $ 250.00 worth of grocerys out of the fridge & freezer . spent most of today clearing debris .what a mess . i did manage to save the Yuengling before it went bad Fri night .then we was bar bound .i tried to talk the bar owner into letting me curl up under the pool table for the night . of course she said no .then i tried to go home with her ..once again she said get tjhe  &*(*% outta here Bluez Laughing.. she is a little  hottie.


if you burn wood in the winter there is plenty of it to be had . no shortages for campfires either


anybody else get hammered Fri afternoon ? the three county area here took a beating and then some .


more storms for Sunday afternoon ..but not like this or so say they say . at least there is a warning for this one .


stay safe all !

bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

July 1, 2012 1:51 am

GET IT DONE, so that Weeden can relax the last few weeks before training camp opens!



so much for this new CBA Yell
bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

July 1, 2012 1:58 am

ESPN Cleveland's Tony Grossi expects TE Jordan Cameron to have an expanded role this season.

Ben Watson is in the final year of his contract, and the Browns envision Cameron, not Evan Moore, as his eventual replacement. Cameron managed just six catches in eight appearances last season. Moore is returning as the part-time, "move" tight end.
bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

July 1, 2012 4:25 am

Sorry to hear about the maor destruction, Bluez. I has just heard about it last night.  I know that has to be a pain in the backside dealing with that fall-out.  Thankfully you didn't sffer any incredible damage personally.  Who would have thunk 90 MPH winds would be touching down in Ohio?  Just think it could be worse though those funnel cakes have been known to form in parts of the state.  Good to know your electric company was on top of things. Goodness knows you never know when you'll be put back on the grid sometimes. 

ESPN Cleveland's Tony Grossi expects TE Jordan Cameron to have an expanded role this season.

Ben Watson is in the final year of his contract, and the Browns envision Cameron, not Evan Moore, as his eventual replacement. Cameron managed just six catches in eight appearances last season. Moore is returning as the part-time, "move" tight end.
Can somebody please tell me what Evan Moore has done wrong to this front office. I am all for Jordan Cameron getting his shot, but for the love of all things holy don't just play the guy because you want to prove yourself some great procurer of talent.  Just because they laid their reputation on Cameron doesn't mean he shoudl start as a second-year guy.  Moore is beyond capable of doing what it takes in the Cleveland Browns' system.  Ben Watson IMO shouldn't be much longer for this team after this season.  There is time to bring Cameron up to speed if he is indeed as good as they think he is.  I may very well be wrong and Cameron's training camp will tell the tale, as Moore has experience and good experience at that.  I am for Jordan getting better and living up tohis billing, but not at the sake of the franchise or season. 

longbombgudnite
SinceSep 15, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

July 1, 2012 9:26 am

EREA: Trent Richardson has never hesitated to discuss his rough background since the Browns drafted him third overall April 26.

Drugs, violence and poverty, Richardson said, permeate the Warrington neighborhood of Pensacola, Fla., where he grew up. He had two daughters when he was a teenager, life was hard and the wrong crowd presented itself at virtually every turn. Richardson, though, credits his mother, Katrina, and the coaches he had as a youngster for helping him emerge from difficult circumstances to become a star running back at the University of Alabama and a first-round draft pick.

This week, Richardson and the other 252 members of this year’s draft class received reminders about how to stay on the right path during the 15th NFL Rookie Symposium, which is being held in Northeast Ohio for the first time. The AFC rookies will wrap up the symposium today with a visit to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton, and Richardson expects to receive a valuable history lesson.

“I want to be in the hall of fame, and I want to be one of the most talked-about running backs in the NFL,” Richardson said Friday during the symposium’s PLAY 60 Youth Football Clinic at the Browns’ headquarters. “I want my name to always be remembered in a good way, not in a dumb way or in a crazy way. For me, I’m always gonna work hard and make sure that my standards are set high.”

Cincinnati Bengals cornerback Adam “Pacman” Jones and former NFL wide receiver Terrell Owens, both of whom have encountered their fair share of off-the-field drama, spoke to the AFC rookies Thursday during orientation at the Bertram Inn & Conference Center in Aurora.

“To me, [the most important lesson] was what Adam Jones said — ‘Make sure you look at that bank statement, make sure you do background checks on your financial adviser, your agent, your broker, all that stuff,’ ” Richardson said. “I had never thought about that stuff. That’s something I’m going to go back and double check on.

“I have kept my circle small. I have friends back home, but they know their spot. They know their place, and when I get with them, I get with them and I talk to them. But they know when I’m working it is straight business. I’m not going to let anyone interfere with my business.”

Like Richardson, fellow Browns rookie Mitchell Schwartz heard the warnings loud and clear during the symposium.

“Don’t make the same mistakes other people have made already,” said Schwartz, an offensive tackle from the University of California whom the Browns picked 37th overall. “They bring a lot of guys in who have kind of already done the wrong things that you shouldn’t be doing. You just try to learn from their mistakes, so you don’t do it yourself. I think that’s kind of the big takeaway. It’s all stuff you know — not to drink and drive. Other players who have been through it can tell you the situation you can get caught up in and how easily things can turn for you.”

Much of the advice sounds familiar to Browns quarterback Brandon Weeden, who’s different than a typical rookie because he spent five years in minor-league baseball before playing football at Oklahoma State University and will turn 29 in October. Still, Weeden knows one particular message is worth hearing again.

“T.O. said it — everybody really said it — but you’ve got a lot of free time on your hands, and there’s a lot of people out there that want to open up their hand and have you help them by loaning them money or whatever it may be,” said Weeden, the 22nd overall pick. “I don’t care what anyone says. If you’re financially stable, it makes things a lot easier, and 78 percent of the people that leave the league after three or four years aren’t. To me, that hits home. I like my money. I want to keep my money. I think hearing guys that have been through the actual situation, to hear it come out of their mouth, that hits home a little bit.”

Of course, lessons from the symposium only pay off if they’re applied. Each player must make his own decisions, and Richardson believes his foundation will help him remain disciplined.

“My mom kept me humble with church and my faith,” Richardson said. “Football can mold you into a man and mold you into a different person and a respectful person when you have coaches like I had.

“I’m gonna always be that guy that didn’t have that much, and I’m gonna always work hard. I’ll make sure I remember where I came from.”

bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

July 1, 2012 9:36 am

 
Who would have thunk 90 MPH winds would be touching down in Ohio?  Just think it could be worse though those funnel cakes have been known to form in parts of the state.  Good to know your electric company was on top of things. Goodness knows you never know when you'll be put back on the grid sometimes. 



in 2008 Ohio had a hurricane that formed after one in the Gulf reached up here and reformed . the Browns played the Steelers that night on Sunday night football . i lost power then but watched the game from my dads house .who would have thought that Ohio would have a hurricane ?? it was just high winds and yes we lost power for three days then . but the damage wasnt nothing like Fri afternoons was . most streets were blocked off with fallen trees . live power lines snapping all over the place . it was crazy around here . total carnage . there is nothing personaly that cant be fixed . just lots of cleanup and dumping my fridge & freezer .


what a mess . thankful to have power back

thankful that no one was serisouly injured or worse . that is a miracle as there was no warning for this storm

bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

July 1, 2012 9:38 am

The Cleveland Plain Dealer's Mary Kay Cabot thinks Colt McCoy's popularity in the locker room makes a trade out of Cleveland more likely.

Cabot feels that the fan and player support McCoy enjoys could become a distraction, especially if rookie Brandon Weeden struggles early on. A McCoy trade has seems inevitable since draft day. The team figures to make the move later this summer.
Mary Kay Cabot and the rest of the PD writers just seems hell bent on running Colt out of town don't they?
DuffBeerDoug
SinceOct 25, 2006
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

July 1, 2012 9:42 am

anybody else get hammered Fri afternoon ? the three county area here took a beating and then some .


more storms for Sunday afternoon ..but not like this or so say they say . at least there is a warning for this one .


stay safe all !
Had some good damage around Cow-lumbus Bluez.  Storm ripped off the ridge vent off my roof.  Had to climb up right after the storm to slap some plastic down over the hole.  And I gotta get up there shortly to put it back on.  At least my repair job will only cost me an hour or two of my time and a $3 tube of caulk and bit of roll shingles I already have out in the garage.
DuffBeerDoug
SinceOct 25, 2006