Hunter 'cool' with Pierce's decert movement
"I think Paul is kind of frustrated with the process," Hunter said after a news conference in which the players said they were rejecting the league's latest take-it-or-leave-it proposal. "Paul has been at the bargaining table and he doesn’t feel that we’ve been making any kind of progress. And so he thought that maybe that’s necessary. We don’t have a lot of options and that’s the option Paul was pushing – still is pushing."
Asked in a small group of reporters if he's cool with that, Hunter said, "Of course. Listen, I’m cool with Paul and all these guys. I think it’s very important. I’m happy that Paul and the others are involved in the process. That’s always been the problem with athletes, that a lot of stuff is foisted on them and they have no input. Paul has been actively engaged, he understands, he’s been in five or six of our negotiating sessions, he talks to me, and when they had the (decertification) calls, he called and let me know that they were having the calls. And I said, 'Hey, I'm not at all opposed to you doing that.' ... I endorse what Paul did."
Hunter later said in an interview on NBA TV that Pierce informed him Tuesday that about 200 players have committed to signing a petition seeking a decertification election if a deal is not consummated before commissioner David Stern's 5 p.m. ET Wednesday deadline to accept the owners' latest proposal -- which includes the same 50-50 split of revenues the union is now prepared to accept.
With owners almost certainly following through on their threat to forward a worse proposal to the players if they didn't accept the one on the table, the talks could be thrust into chaos even if Hunter is successful in securing another bargaining session Wednesday. Once the decertification petition is filed with the National Labor Relations Board, the players seeking to dissolve the union would have to wait 45-60 days for the agency to hold an election -- a period during which negotiations with the NBPA could continue.
But given how long Hunter has been waiting for the NLRB to act on the union's unfair labor practices charge, filed in May and amended in July, it's anyone's guess as to whether a decertification threat could be carried out and reach a conclusion in time to save the season. In general, the NLRB does not authorize decertification petitions and or schedule elections while a union has an unfair labor practices charge pending.
"It’s like waiting for the fairy godmother," Hunter said, chiding the NLRB for failing to act on the union's charge, for which a complaint against the NBA could result in a federal injunction lifting the lockout. The NBA subsequently filed am NLRB charge of failing to bargain in good faith against the union, and there's been no action on that one, either.
"I'm hoping that they will get some expedition, particularly if they’re reading in the papers all the things that are happening," Hunter said. "It’s getting hectic on both sides of the table. It’s a federal agency beaurocracy and maybe they think it’s too hot a potato, they don’t want to touch it."
Or just as likely, the NLRB has been hoping the two parties can reach a new collective bargaining agreement on their own without the agency's intervention. If rational minds prevail, that's still possible -- given that the league and union have finally closed what was once a multi-billion-dollar economic gap and have only a handful of system issues, some fairly minor, standing in the way of a deal.
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Don-MLB-FL |
Posted on: November 11, 2011 3:41 am
Hunter 'cool' with Pierce's decert movementStern has made the move to get these boys back to work and they will picking very soon. They are going to bend over backwards to PLEASE Stern. The owners have not given in and they will get what they want for they own the league and deserve the profits. Screw the lawyers, who hump the brains of the players. The boys will have to go back to work - for all of them do not make millions in a year. There is a reality to life.....RICH VS POOR....the poor has to work, the rich do not. THE FANS NEED TO BOYCOTT AND TEACH THEM ALL A LESSON.....AFFECT THE SPONSORS THEN YOU AFFECT THE BIG PICTURE..... |
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Btx |
Posted on: November 10, 2011 5:31 pm
Hunter 'cool' with Pierce's decert movementIgnoring the rascist nature of your comment, it's obvious that the players would hire lawyers, who are happy to be paid for these matters, would handle the process for the most part. Could be that you're the one needing to be handed a shovel.
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dejabrewer |
Posted on: November 10, 2011 9:15 am
Hunter 'cool' with Pierce's decert movementI can see it now, Paulette being wheeled into the room in a wheelchair, KG rubbing his bald head looking confused, LeBron picking his nose and balling up his snot to flick over at D-Wade, as D-Wade screams there are no more marbled bagels to eat. All of them dressed in $5000 suits that look weird on them. Put them all in Carharts and hand them all shovels to rebuild our infrustructure.
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Jim F13 |
Posted on: November 9, 2011 12:30 pm
Hunter 'cool' with Pierce's decert movementActually SOS you say you are joking but if someone ever started a movement to boycott the NBA (in person and on TV) until 20% was returned to the fans in cheaper tickets and other concession, I would sign up.
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Redsfan1507 |
Posted on: November 9, 2011 12:24 pm
Hunter 'cool' with Pierce's decert movementIs Paul Pierce a lawyer too, now ? Hilarious. These guys would be better off allowing people to think they are fools, instead of opening their mouths and proving it. |
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balrog01 |
Posted on: November 9, 2011 11:45 am
Hunter 'cool' with Pierce's decert movementActually, that is exactly what they deserve anyway. I hope the owners bring in replacement players who care more about the game than their paychecks and their hangers-on.You can't have replacement players in a lockout, only in a strike. This is a lockout, if the owners bring in new players now the will owe millions if not billions in damages to the current players for breach of contract and/or labor law/anti-trust violations. |
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mcgee51 |
Posted on: November 9, 2011 11:02 am
Hunter 'cool' with Pierce's decert movement"The NBA Players' Association is a bunch of mice floating down a river on their backs and asking for the drawbridge to be raised."
The hell? |
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BRock2145 |
Posted on: November 9, 2011 10:32 am
Hunter 'cool' with Pierce's decert movementYOUR AN IDIOT IF YOU ARE WISHING FOR THE DEATH OF THE NBA BECAUSE COLLEGE BASKETBALL IS BETTER! Every player in every sport who picks up a ball picks it up with the dream of going professional. Without an NBA, all the College players your so interested in seeing now would have no place to play after college. College basketball will not survive without the NBA as the collegiates overall goal is to get to the NBA! They play harder and follow their coach's directions to get to the NBA. Take away the NBA and college players will go play another sport over time. Name any sport that thrives at the collegiate level that does not have a viable professional league to progress to. Without the NBA we will end up watching an NCAA tournament where the tallest player is a 6 foot 2 guy with limited skills. Athletics is a means for youth to chase a dream. Without an NBA that dream goes another direction for all basketball players. Think about how easy it was for the Dream Team to go to Barcelona and SMASH those teams! AT BEST, those overmatched and underskilled teams are what College basketball would turn into.
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justjoe |
Posted on: November 9, 2011 10:18 am
Hunter 'cool' with Pierce's decert movementGod are they stupid, this worked real well for the nfl. Obviously bouncing a ball and higher intelligence dont run together. At least we wont have to deal with that shitty sport for the rest of 2011..its gone. YEA!!!!
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JKSausage |
Posted on: November 9, 2011 10:00 am
Hunter 'cool' with Pierce's decert movementHere's my percentage I'm relaying to the players: I'll be keeping my 100%! (well, after the government takes their chunk, of course). If I keep my 100% and every other fan of the NBA keeps their 100%, then owners and players won't have any 50%/50% to argue over! :) There will be no NBA. Then maybe they can start over and pay these guys a reasonable amount of money, ticket prices would go down, and the NBA would go back to being a league that the average Joe could actually care about! :)
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