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NBA talks at stalemate, start of season imperiled

Posted on: September 13, 2011 4:53 pm
Edited on: September 13, 2011 4:57 pm
 
NEW YORK -- Full committees of NBA owners and players met Tuesday with a hint of progress on the economic split but no signs of compromise on the hard salary cap owners are trying to impose.

After five hours -- most of it spent with each side symbolically huddled amongst themselves, apropos of their deeply entrenched bargaining stances -- National Basketball Players Association executive director Billy Hunter and president Derek Fisher warned that it appears the season will not start on time. Hunter said he has advised players that they "may have to sit out half the season before we get a deal."

"We can't come out of here thinking that training camps and preseason are going to start on time," Fisher said.

Commissioner David Stern did not share that dour outlook, saying emphatically that owners would not cancel training camps or preseason games at the Board of Governors meeting in Dallas Thursday. Appropriate to their diametrically opposed positions on changes to the cap system the owners have proposed, each side blamed the other for the breakdown in talks.

After three seemingly productive meetings among only the highest-level negotiators in recent weeks, Hunter said the players insisted that the full bargaining teams be brought in Tuesday to see if compromise could be achieved before each side holds a significant meeting Thursday, when the players will convene in Las Vegas. The players were "prepared to compromise somewhat" on their share of revenues, which they'd previously proposed reducing from 57 percent to 54.3 percent.

"The owners are not inclined at this stage to move off the position where they've anchored themselves," Hunter said, adding that players remain steadfast against accepting a system that distributes the money to players via a hard cap.

Stern and deputy commissioner Adam Silver told a diferent story, saying the players signaled their willingness to compromise on dollars only if the owners agreed in advance that the system -- with a soft cap, luxury tax, and various spending exceptions -- would remain largely intact. The owners huddled -- for about three of the 5 1-2 hour, Hunter said -- and emerged to reject the players' request. Neither side actually made a formal proposal Tuesday.

Stern called the players' opposition to a hard cap "an emotional attachment," while Hunter argued that it would depress player salaries -- a point that Silver vehemently disputed.



Comments

Since: Mar 21, 2007
Posted on: September 14, 2011 5:08 pm
 

NBA talks at stalemate, start of season imperiled

I agree with daddyrich on basketball's creativity.  I also believe it's the best all-around mainstream sport, because it involves constant running, jumping, accuracy, with even a some strength and finesse thrown in there.  I'd hate to see it -- in its pro form or college -- lose any playing time.



Since: Mar 21, 2010
Posted on: September 14, 2011 11:13 am
 

NBA talks at stalemate, start of season imperiled

unbelieveable!..where has the NBA and its players been the last 5 years?..people losing their jobs, foreclosures and on and on!.. we have to listen to a bunch of rich "business" men and way overpaid players sulking?.. let's pay our teachers this kind of money!.. I love sports and watching these athletes play and living vicariously through them, but I know one thing for sure that I will have to pay my bills and mortgage to survive.. this is ridiculous and pathetic!..this is not about black, white, but about overpaid and not in touch people.. I'll survive with or without the NBA..
jpitt47 I could not agree with your comments anymore. Just like the National Football League's lockout this work stoppage just proves that the billionaire owners and millionaire players are completely out of touch with the fans and what has been and is currently taking place as far as this country's economy goes. I love how both sides are fighting over a pie with zero consideration for the fans. Without us fans there is no pie to fight over.  




Since: Jun 24, 2010
Posted on: September 14, 2011 10:37 am
 

NBA talks at stalemate, start of season imperiled

who even cares about NBA anyway? I didnt even realize that the NBA still had fans. do the fans of the NBA realize what it is exactly that they are fans of? Since the only thing that is remotely exciting about the NBA is the playoffs (eerily similar to NHL) they should just scrap the whole conference/division set up all together. put all of the teams into a triple elimination tournament bracket and play the whole thing out over the course of 2-3 months. that way it wont interfere too much with MLB, NFL, NHL. At least when the players fight in hockey, it isnt a limp wristed slap fest like NBA fights. That at least makes hockey an enjoyable spectator sport.



Since: Oct 3, 2006
Posted on: September 14, 2011 10:19 am
 

NBA talks at stalemate, start of season imperiled

This would be a disaster for the NBA...when hockey went on strike, nobody cared because nobody likes hockey. But the NBA is slightly more popular and therefore they have that much more to lose. Players are already perceived to be over-paid crybabies, and I truly believe that if games aren't played it will affect the popularity of The League, as opposed to what we've seen with the NFL (but at least they avoided skipping regular season games).



Since: Sep 15, 2007
Posted on: September 14, 2011 10:03 am
 

NBA talks at stalemate, start of season imperiled

This just in:  King B. Hussein O. is going to organize the labor UNION and the owners for a formal meet and greet at the WHITE house to see what his kiingship can work out.....cannot afford to have more UNION employees not working....  



Since: Apr 4, 2008
Posted on: September 14, 2011 7:56 am
 

NBA talks at stalemate, start of season imperiled

Thank you orangemen90 for throwing the race card out on the table.  What's a public bulletin board without that nonsense to read?  This issue, my friend, is not about race.  It's about greed.  And if you want hold on so tightly to your race concerns, I'll explain it in terms you can understand.  On one side of the table you have a bunch of greedy white men and on the other side of the table you have a bunch of greedy black men.  The commonality this picture has with our society is that we are all sinful greedy people.  You can point fingers wherever you want, but the bottom line is greed.  I appreciaed many of the earlier posts that addressed the point that our nation is going through one of the most difficult economic periods in its history, and all these million/billionaires can think about is "getting theirs".  It's shameful and it's wrong.  It's wrong for the players (not all of whom are black) to do this, and it shameful for the owners (not all of whom are white) to do this.  I'm a huge fan of the NBA.  It is my most favorite TV entertainment.  I do however, hope the season is cancelled and all these childish greedy people get NOTHING.  They're all an embarrassment.  Just as your comment about race being a factor is an embarrassment.



Since: Oct 26, 2010
Posted on: September 14, 2011 6:20 am
 

Pay Up!

just give the players all the new money they want and raise prices to pay for it.  Time to get the game on!!



Since: Dec 23, 2007
Posted on: September 14, 2011 5:59 am
 

NBA talks at stalemate, start of season imperiled

Lets look into the room.. all rich men... yeap.... so white men on one side... black men on the other... anyone see any room for agreement.. they pretty much represent the picture of our society... the end of the nba is at hand... 



Since: Jul 19, 2007
Posted on: September 14, 2011 1:45 am
 

NBA talks at stalemate, start of season imperiled

unbelieveable!..where has the NBA and its players been the last 5 years?..people losing their jobs, foreclosures and on and on!.. we have to listen to a bunch of rich "business" men and way overpaid players sulking?.. let's pay our teachers this kind of money!.. I love sports and watching these athletes play and living vicariously through them, but I know one thing for sure that I will have to pay my bills and mortgage to survive.. this is ridiculous and pathetic!..this is not about black, white, but about overpaid and not in touch people.. I'll survive with or without the NBA..



Since: Mar 8, 2007
Posted on: September 14, 2011 12:45 am
 

NBA talks at stalemate, start of season imperiled

I completely agree, rvsquared.  I no longer follow the NBA at all.  Just happened to catch this headline 'cause it was at the top of the main page, but I haven't commented on so-called pro BBall in months.  I have no sympathy left for either side; they are both selfish, greedy, & don't evidence ANY interest in the fans that pay them all.

Screw 'em.

'Nuff said.


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