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Draft Buzz: Monta, Odom, Rambis and more

Posted on: June 22, 2011 11:35 pm
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The latest trade buzz surrounding Thursday night's NBA draft, from conversations with executives, agents and others in the know:

* The Warriors have fielded numerous calls about Monta Ellis, and seem to be cautiously open to discussing the star guard's desire for a change of scenery. Such efforts have become increasingly difficult since the hiring of Mark Jackson as coach. Jackson wants to coach Ellis, and has become well aware that he has emerged as owner Joe Lacob's favorite player on the team.

* A recent conversation between the Warriors and Lakers centered around Lamar Odom and Shannon Brown going to Golden State for Ellis, but those talks went nowhere, sources said. The Bulls would become involved if they were willing to part with Joakim Noah, and Chicago executives have consistently balked at including him in trade talks for the past year -- mostly due to the base-year compensation factor in the five-year, $60 million extension he signed last year.

* Executives also have heard Ellis mentioned in conversations with Memphis for Rudy Gay, but acquiring Gay would be extraordinarily problematic for any team given the uncertainty about what new economic and cap system the league and players eventually will adopt. With four years and $68 million left on his contract, Gay "isn't going anywhere," one executive said.

* One of the few trades that makes sense as teams weigh the effects of taking on money in a shrinking-cap world is a deal that has been dormant for weeks: Ellis to Philadelphia for Andre Iguodala. Both players have three years left, and although Iguodala is owed $44 million compared to Ellis' $33 million, those are the only deals most teams will be willing to make between now and June 30 -- those in which they don't have to take on additional years of salary.

* The Timberwolves have peddled the No. 2 pick far and wide and have been unable to land an offer that tempts them. Discussions with the Lakers centered around Odom, but that wouldn't be good business to trade young, cheap labor for a 31-year-old making $8.9 million next season -- even though he has only $2.4 million guaranteed in 2012-13.

* Speaking of the Wolves, team officials continued to say Wednesday night that coach Kurt Rambis hasn't been fired yet, but the more things like that are stated, the more obvious it becomes that Rambis is gone. The search for a replacement will begin soon after the draft.

* Spurs officials continue to do what they're paid to do -- find out what their players are worth on the trade market. That's all the Tony Parker speculation is, several rival execs believe. "You know and I know they're not trading Tony Parker," one GM said. "You can't get anything close to equal value for him."

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Since: Mar 22, 2007
Posted on: June 23, 2011 3:54 pm
 

Draft Buzz: Monta, Odom, Rambis and more

Of all the names I hear bandied about, I'd like to see the Wolves pursue Iggy.  Not sure what Philly would want but the Wolves have several valuable pieces to offer, the best being the #2 pick.  Wes Johnson isn't a SG so the Wolves need someone who can start there, and it would be nice to add someone who can play some defense, which the Wolves sorely lack.  Plus he'd be a vet on a team full of kids.



Since: Dec 12, 2006
Posted on: June 23, 2011 3:31 pm
 

Draft Buzz: Monta, Odom, Rambis and more

"Centered around" is grammatically incorrect. It's not possible to center around anything.


If that is the case then "centered around" is semantically incorrect, however the grammar is fine.




Since: Dec 23, 2006
Posted on: June 23, 2011 2:08 pm
 

Draft Buzz: Monta, Odom, Rambis and more

You state:  "wouldn't be good business to trade young, cheap labor for a 31-year-old making $8.9 million next season".

A big part of the Timberwolves problems are they are too young.  They have no veteran leadership on the team.  Odom may be the most versatile player in the NBA, was the 6th man of the year and would start on most teams.  His $8.2 million salary in 2010/2011 was 71st in the NBA.  His salary was a bargain compared to such great players as: Samuel Dalembert, Kirk Hinrich, Boris Diaw, Antwan Jamison, Baron Davis, Nene, Ben Gordon, Tayshaun Prince, Rip Hamilton, Andres Biedrins, Troy Murphy, Mike Dunleavy, TJ Ford, Chris Kaman, Mo Williams, Corey Maggette, Andrew Bogut, Eddy Curry, Nick Collison, Hedu Turkgolu, Jason Richardson, Vince Carter, Marcus Camby, Peja Stojakovic, Jose Calderon, Andrei Kirilenko, Memhet Okur, Al Jefferson, Rashard Lewis, all of whom made more than Odom.

Remember too, the 2nd pick last year, Evan Turner (touted as a Brandon Roy clone), hasn't turned out too well for the 76ers with his 7.2 pts/gm; 3.9 reb/gm; 2.0 asst/gm.



Since: Dec 23, 2006
Posted on: June 23, 2011 2:07 pm
 

Draft Buzz: Monta, Odom, Rambis and more

You state:  "wouldn't be good business to trade young, cheap labor for a 31-year-old making $8.9 million next season".

A big part of the Timberwolves problems are they are too young.  They have no veteran leadership on the team.  Odom may be the most versatile player in the NBA, was the 6th man of the year and would start on most teams.  His $8.2 million salary in 2010/2011 was 71st in the NBA.  His salary was a bargain compared to such great players as: Samuel Dalembert, Kirk Hinrich, Boris Diaw, Antwan Jamison, Baron Davis, Nene, Ben Gordon, Tayshaun Prince, Rip Hamilton, Andres Biedrins, Troy Murphy, Mike Dunleavy, TJ Ford, Chris Kaman, Mo Williams, Corey Maggette, Andrew Bogut, Eddy Curry, Nick Collison, Hedu Turkgolu, Jason Richardson, Vince Carter, Marcus Camby, Peja Stojakovic, Jose Calderon, Andrei Kirilenko, Memhet Okur, Al Jefferson, Rashard Lewis, all of whom made more than Odom.

Remember too, the 2nd pick last year, Evan Turner (touted as a Brandon Roy clone), hasn't turned out too well for the 76ers with his 7.2 pts/gm; 3.9 reb/gm; 2.0 asst/gm.



Since: May 10, 2007
Posted on: June 23, 2011 1:59 pm
 

Draft Buzz: Monta, Odom, Rambis and more




Since: May 10, 2007
Posted on: June 23, 2011 1:58 pm
 

Draft Buzz: Monta, Odom, Rambis and more

"Centered around" is usable as an idiom.  Yes, it may be a bit illogical, but Webster's say it's ok.  So go eat poo. 



Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: June 23, 2011 1:35 pm
 

Draft Buzz: Monta, Odom, Rambis and more

As much as I'd hate the Lakers to lose Odom, they should make this trade if they can.  Really upgrades the PG position (a desparate need in LA) for two backups (very valuable backups who could start for a lot of teams, but backups non the less) and puts a 3rd scorer in the starting lineup with Kobe and Pau (maybe 4th if Bynum continues to improve and get more consistent).



Since: Oct 15, 2008
Posted on: June 23, 2011 11:58 am
 

Draft Buzz: Monta, Odom, Rambis and more

Props to the previous two posters.  Actual intelligence on a message board ... who knew!



Since: May 19, 2007
Posted on: June 23, 2011 3:26 am
 

Draft Buzz: Monta, Odom, Rambis and more

How does a millionaire athlete (Odom) settle for the least attractive girl (if she's a girl) in California?



Since: Jun 23, 2011
Posted on: June 23, 2011 2:59 am
 

Draft Buzz: Monta, Odom, Rambis and more

Good insight, Ken. Sounds as if Lamar Kardashian isn't long for L.A. My only issue with this article lies with your editor, who twice allowed you to commit a common, sophomoric mistake. "Centered around" is grammatically incorrect. It's not possible to center around anything.



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