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Knicks land second sitdown with LeBron reps

Posted on: July 4, 2010 7:39 pm
Edited on: July 4, 2010 11:50 pm
The Knicks had a second meeting with LeBron James’ representatives Saturday in Cleveland, a get-together called by the team to clarify its cap position and the options available to surround James with other free agents or assets acquired in trades, a person with knowledge of the sitdown confirmed to

The meeting was called after it became apparent that the Knicks were closing in on an agreement with free-agent power forward Amar’e Stoudemire, but that was not the reason for the gathering, the person with knowledge of it said. The meeting was first reported Sunday by the New York Daily News .

“It was just to make sure that they understood how much cap room we had,” a team official familiar with the meeting said. “… The options that you could come out of that with is what we wanted to explain. I think they were unclear and we had to show them.”

Those present included Glen Grunwald, the Knicks’ vice president of basketball operations, and Madison Square Garden president Scott O’Neil, who were dispatched to Cleveland Saturday to explain the options at the team’s disposal to James’ agent, Leon Rose. James did not attend.

The team official with knowledge of the meeting stressed that, although Stoudemire met Sunday with coach Mike D’Antoni and will have a formal sitdown with Knicks officials Monday, it is by no means a done deal that Stoudemire will be a Knick. Stoudemire and D'Antoni met Sunday to lay the groundwork for Monday's meeting and clear the air about what once source described as "misperceptions" about their relatiionship at the end of D'Antoni's days in Phoenix. But while Stoudemire and D'Antoni may have cleared the air about possibly entering into another working relationship, James holds all the cards in terms of what complementary players the Knicks would surround him with if the King opted to sign with the Knicks.

All of the potential free-agent maneuverings are intertwined, with one executive involved in the chase saying Sunday, "Nobody has anybody yet."  And the Cleveland Plain-Dealer reported Sunday that James will likely delay an announcement of his decision until after a three-day Nike camp in his hometown of Akron concludes Wednesday.

Stoudemire, too, is keeping his options open, as AOL Fanhouse reported Sunday that the five-time All-Star plans to meet Tuesday with the Nets and Bulls if he doesn’t agree to terms with the Knicks Monday. In the information vacuum and speculative frenzy that has engulfed the NBA during this unprecedented free-agent summer, Stoudemire caused a stir Saturday night when he said that Tony Parker and Carmelo Anthony had agreed to come with him to New York if he signed with the Knicks. New York is interested in both players, and has, in fact, inquired about obtaining Parker from the Spurs in a trade. But short of a trade – and a person close to Anthony told Saturday that there’s “zero chance” the Nuggets will trade him this summer – there is no way for Stoudemire’s promise to become reality.

“Clearly, you can’t,” a team executive familiar with the Knicks’ situation said of the team landing Parker and Melo.

Meanwhile, the Knicks continue to pursue other options to either pair with a top-tier free agent or with Stoudemire, with small forward Mike Miller apparently the most coveted piece. In addition to the Knicks, the Heat, Clippers and perhaps Cavs are in contention for Miller, a person with knowledge of the situation told

The Cavs, who came out of Saturday’s presentations to James feeling they are still the overwhelming favorites to retain him, are continuing to pursue Bulls free-agent center Brad Miller, sources said.


Since: Dec 5, 2006
Posted on: July 5, 2010 6:26 pm

Knicks land second sitdown with LeBron reps

NYKLIB725, you may be correct about the talent available to trade by Cleveland except for the fact that Jamison will make an estimated $15,076,715 this year and is an expriring conract. That is a valuable commodity to many teams and especially in this uncertain and risky economy. That is a staight up trade but Cleveland can add JJ Hickson (who does not appear to be garbage) to sweeten the pot. Delonte West (expiring contract as well) can be used to exchange for Jarret Jack (reportedly being shopped by Toronto) as additions. A three-way or more trade can further open the possibilites.

Further, you can add Mo Williams plus another player by taking back Hedo, helping both teams move currently unpopular and underperforming players.

NBA GM's are pretty creative in getting things done and Brian Colangelo has proven his capabilities in past years.

Winning titles is a big part of the equation. Marketability is the other big part. LeBron wants both and Wade does as well. Kobe wins titles but his personal story has reportedly cost him many millions in sponsorships, money he is just beginning to recover. The feel-good story just seems too "made for television" good to ignore. Tim Duncan is all the more loved and respected because he did the same thing in free agency, turning down bigger markets to stay home and win titles in San Antonio.

As far as the media goes, you prove my point by citing Sportscenter and NBATV as your interests with (you are here, of course). Each of these get paid by the number of hits or viewers they attract in each segment so they carry the segments that get them the most revenue. The opinions expressed are less relevant that the interest and debate they engender.

Since: Dec 7, 2006
Posted on: July 5, 2010 2:54 pm

Knicks land second sitdown with LeBron reps

"Cleveland is as good as it gets for him and attracting a fellow star is possible there with sign and trades "

Lee3022, the problem is that they are over the cap, even with Lebron.  Plus, the Raptors will not sign and trade a player like Bosh to the Cavs for the garbage on their roster.  Many of the players feed off Lebron, especially Varejao, who would be totally useless on another team.  Teams are not going to take on Jamison's contract, and he is starting to get up there in age and no one would take on Mo either.  Those are the only two attractive sign and trade pieces the Cavs have and I do not think teams want the contracts or the players Cleveland has besides LBJ.  He has a better chance of winning multiple titles with the Bulls than with the Cavs b/c of the roster and the age of the team.  And if becoming a billionaire and expanding his name are his main priorities, he is out of Cleveland because it is too small a market and because of its major economic struggles.  If that is his main priority, he will be a Knick.  And if the rumor that Carmelo wants to play in NY when his contract expires is true, that may entice him.  But at this point, I don't know what to believe.  The story changes every day and I think it is just LBJ trying to get his name mentioned on ESPN.  And the media, especially ESPN, is anti-NY.  I watched Sportscenter last night and you could tell they want him as far away from there as possible.  They barely even mentioned NY for him until this report came out that he had a second meeting.  We know that network favors Boston and for football, Dallas as well.  I watch NBATV when they have rumors because at least they don't have biased reporters like Broussard (who is from Cleveland) saying where they want the players to sign.

Since: Feb 22, 2008
Posted on: July 5, 2010 12:45 pm

Knicks land second sitdown with LeBron reps

Mackspane, your comments confuse me and yes, they are hypercritical.  There's a quote in the articale that says:

But short of a trade – and a person close to Anthony told Saturday that there’s “zero chance” the will trade him this summer – there is no way for Stoudemire’s promise to become reality.

“Clearly, you can’t,” a team executive familiar with the Knicks’ situation said of the team landing Parker and Melo.

It does in fact say "this summer" so I don't understand why you're getting so worked up and defensive.  Also, the reporter is simply reporting what sources and team executives tell him.  I hardly think that's irresponsible. 

Since: Sep 4, 2006
Posted on: July 5, 2010 12:30 pm

Knicks land second sitdown with LeBron reps

The media is anti-New York?   NYSports5117, you're a freaking moron! 

Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: July 5, 2010 11:19 am

Knicks land second sitdown with LeBron reps

OK so what exactly happened in the first meeting that they needed to meet with him again to tell him about the Cap space they have...they had him for over 2 hours and this never came up?

Thats great sell the guy in being a star and making billions of dollars...and if he buys that, its obvious he wants 2 and recognition...but not a title....

Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: July 5, 2010 9:59 am

Knicks land second sitdown with LeBron reps

Yes this is better drama than watching our beloved Cubbies getting spanked by everyone in sight....or finding out which Blackhawk is heading out of town next.  The NBA has created this mess themselves really (and on purpose I am sure).  Why not just let these guys talk with teams and sign instantly?  Why drag it out and let the media create so many unfounded rumors and scenarios?  Oh I know, to let the fans get more interested during the dog days of summer.  Especially with the boring draft they had this year........the NBA needed something to keep the fans going.  It's funny reading about how one city is "better" than another.  Or how the night life or other sports teams in the town might influence King James.  There are only two things that will motivate him now.  Money and Winning.  Nobody has a true idea of how much money he can make off the court no matter where he ends up.  Cleveland can obviously pay him a higher salary with all of the other teams being able to pay him less, but the same as each other.  Secondary income can only be estimated.  If Lebron wants to win and win now, he will go to Chicago with either Bosh, Wade, or even David Lee and another minor free agent.  Chicago has the best nucleus of younger talent allowing them a better chance to win now with the addition of Lebron and some other help.  That is pretty much it.  You want to win now Lebron???? Come to Chi-town and get started on clearing some more space in the trophy room!!!

Since: Jan 4, 2008
Posted on: July 5, 2010 9:57 am

Knicks land second sitdown with LeBron reps

a person close to Anthony told Saturday that there’s “zero chance” the will trade him this summer – there is no way for Stoudemire’s promise to become reality.

“Clearly, you can’t,” a team executive familiar with the Knicks’ situation said of the team landing Parker and Melo.

It wasn't a reporter, it was your guy and source close to Melo.

Since: Aug 19, 2006
Posted on: July 5, 2010 9:38 am

Knicks land second sitdown with LeBron reps

Dude, even with Lebron + one max Free agent, they are not winning the NBA championship. They'll need one more top player. Carmello next year??   BTW, the Rangers are setup right now for much longer success than every team you mentioned except Yanks.

Since: Apr 5, 2010
Posted on: July 5, 2010 8:30 am

R.I.P. My beloved "Knicks"...................

I've been a Knicks fan for going on 35 some odd years! Yeah, I'm old! ={

But the "truth" be told, sadly they have been irrelrvent for the past 15-20 of them. And the fact they've planned for this day clearing cap space these past years. If they are unable to sign King James? You might just as well re-name MSG , Rangers Stadium and move on. Most though not all, got over the Brooklyn Dodgers and leveling of Ebbits Field. As the society that we've become? We should have little problem getting ove those guys we remember as....Sorry? Who were we talking about?....Oh! Yeah! The Knicks. Whatever happened with that team?

Since: Jan 13, 2009
Posted on: July 5, 2010 6:06 am

Knicks land second sitdown with LeBron reps

Mostly nonsense, but I wouldn't want to live there either.

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