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Kidd: Butler trade not the only answer

Posted on: February 13, 2010 3:11 pm
Edited on: February 13, 2010 8:02 pm
DALLAS -- Jason Kidd likes the trade that would fortify the Mavericks' title hopes, bringing Caron Butler, Brendan Haywood and DeShawn Stevenson from Washington for Josh Howard, Drew Gooden, James Singleton and Quinton Ross. But Kidd, an All-Star point guard, said Saturday it's not all the Mavs need to get back on track.

"It could put us right there with the best, but at the end of the day you've still got to play the games," Kidd said on the practice court during All-Star weekend. "So on paper, it doesn't win you a championship. The big thing for us is we got to turn it around because we haven't been playing well as a team anyway. First off, we got to start winning no matter if there's a trade or not."

Butler, having a horrendous year in Washington, would give the Mavs the scoring threat that Howard was unable to deliver -- assuming the change of scenery will restore Butler to his former All-Star level. But the key to the deal could be Haywood, whose shot-blocking and post defense could help solve the problem that had Dallas limping into the All-Star break.

The Mavs went into the break with five losses in seven games, prompting owner Mark Cuban to declare, "We suck right now." The problem has been defense, particularly on the perimeter. Dallas went into the break having allowed 100 points or more in eight consecutive games. According to adjusted plus/minus guru Wayne Winston -- who for nine years headed the Mavs' quantitative analysis team -- Kidd, Jason Terry and J.J. Barea were the worst culprits. With Haywood protecting the basket, all of them should improve.


Since: Dec 23, 2006
Posted on: February 15, 2010 8:23 am

Kidd: Butler trade not the only answer

I am a die-hard Wizards fan and many people in the loyal and long-suffering Wizzie nation are upset that our team gave Dallas so much and got so little in return. Personally, I think we need to see what transpires the rest of this week especially regarding Antawn Jamison and Mike Miller before a final judgement is made, but it is clear that the Pollin family has put cutting costs over acquiring draft choices as a priority.

I do think that the Wizzies will not keep Josh Noward or Drew Godden after this season, but that Quinton Ross (signed at a low cost through next season) will prove to be a defensive stalwart for the Wizzies and that James Singleton may prove to be a very pleasant surprise as a top forntcourt reserve.

Now, how should Dallas maximize the opportunity to leverage its newly-acquired DC talent.

First, I have read that Jason Terry is going to go back to the bench and relinquish his starting 2-guard spot to Caron Butler. Anyone who has seen what happens when Butler plays the 2-guard will tell you that this is not necessarily a good idea. Caron cannot defend quick 2-guards and will be eaten alive by opposing 2-guards on the Western Conference teams that Dallas must beat... Kobe Bryant, Brandon Roy, OJ Mayo, Thabo Sefalosha, J.R. Smith, Ronnie Brewer, George Hill... to say nothing of his opposite numbers on also-ran Western teams, Monta Ellis, Eric Gordon, Corey Brewer...

Caron Butler is a very good classic 3 and that is where he has to play to be effective, which to my mind means that Dirk Nowitzki is going to have to function more as a stretch four (i.e pay some attention to rebounding as well as scoring) and Shawn Marion, who has not produced offensively anyway, should head to the bench with Terry staying as the starting 2 guard. Terry, in his comments, suggests that the Mavericks will often finish games with a Nowitzki, Marion, Terry, Butler and Jason Kidd on the floor... That begs the question of how the Mavericks will get optimal usage out of Brendan Haywood, who needs 30-32 minutes a game to be effective. Haywood is a fine interior defender (and traffic manager) and a decent rebounder who needs board help from his power forward (people rightly malign Antawn Jamsion's defense, but he is a productive rebounder). Haywood is not a great offensive player but with a point guard like Jason Kidd to set him up, he will produce many more points than Erick Dampier.

The other thing that giving all of the Mavericks minutes at the two to Butler and Terry does, is that is takes all value from having DeShawn Stevenson on the team. DeShawn gets his share of knocks (and he has earned them), but the guy is exactly the sort of defensive wing player Dallas will need on its second unit so long as the vertically-challenged J J Barea is the back-up point guard.

In short, the Mavericks are in for a little period of adjustment

Since: Sep 1, 2006
Posted on: February 15, 2010 12:01 am

Kidd: Butler trade not the only answer

Not just scoring. Butler is one of best defender, don't forget about it.

Mavs brings two best defenders Haywood and Butler.

This team has been upgrade to A+ from B-

Since: Oct 16, 2008
Posted on: February 14, 2010 10:48 pm

Butler trade not the only answer.but what about?


Since: Nov 12, 2006
Posted on: February 14, 2010 8:17 pm

Kidd: Butler trade not the only answer

josh howard has been a awesome player for the small forward spot,Have you even watched Howard play in the last 2 seasons?  He's been a long way from "awesome".  He's been very, very average - occasionally good, sometimes awful.

Since: Oct 13, 2006
Posted on: February 14, 2010 8:16 pm

Kidd: Butler trade not the only answer

i disagree with this trade.josh howard has been a awesome player for the small forward spot,mavs problem is center and defensive guards,harriss should have never been traded and jason kidd is an old man.we need some youth!!
Howard WAS an "awesome player" for Dallas a year and a half ago... this year he has average 13 points, 3 rebounds and 1 assist - that is the complete opposite of of awesome, that is horrible!  That is horrible for a former All-Star, that would be horrible for a bench player and it is certainly horrible for a guy who has started the majority of the games this year.  That doesn't even take into account the fact that he plays with Jason Kidd & Dirk Nowitzki and never faces double teams.

Meanwhile Caron Butler has been playing basically with you and me on the court this season and is averaging 17 points, 7 rebounds and 2 assists.  This is while facing all of the defensive pressure and focus of the opposing team.  He is 29 years old (for 1 more month), which is younger than Howard and is a much more consistent player as well.

That doesn't even take into account Haywood who average 10 points and 10 rebounds, is only 30 & gives the Mavericks a much better option at the center position than Drew Gooden.  So how exactly can you "disagree with this trade"???  Anyone with an iota of common sense and basketball knowledge knows this is a huge upgrade.  If you don't believe me maybe you will believe Kobe Bryant -

"You're going to love him," Bryant said. "I hate to say that, but you guys are going to absolutely love him. You put him on a contender and I'm telling you, you're going to love him. And he's tough as nails, too."   Yeah, I think Kobe knows a little something about the game of basketball...

Since: May 19, 2007
Posted on: February 14, 2010 12:19 pm

Kidd: Butler trade not the only answer

Josh Howard is not a good player anymore...he is average at best now, and more importantly, he's a bad dude and teammate.  I don't know if Butler will be much better, but Im glad to see us get one of my most hated local athletes out of the city.  Have fun in Washington, Josh.

Since: Mar 29, 2007
Posted on: February 14, 2010 1:05 am

Kidd: Butler trade not the only answer

well DS the old man is averaging almost a double double every night.Along with Youth comes rebuilding, is that what You really want DS?  This is another peice to a puzzle, lets just hope thiws is the final peice and it finally fits for Dallas.

Since: May 5, 2009
Posted on: February 13, 2010 10:11 pm

Kidd: Butler trade not the only answer

Just curious, who's the dominant post presence? Please don't say Brendan Haywood. He'll give some dee and some rebounding but nothing on the "O"!!! Also, when did the game start being played on paper. You still have to get out there and play. Overall, I'm not sure Butler is an upgrade over Howard. This could possibly back fire on Cuban. With about 28 games to go, your team is on a slide and now you need to develop chemistry? They will make the playoffs, but Don't think they will go far. And I've been saying for years, They will never win with Dirk being the focal point. See finals against Miami. You can not have your best player shooting fallaway jumpers when a small is playing him. Look for  a big break up of the mavs this summer.

Since: Feb 19, 2009
Posted on: February 13, 2010 6:05 pm

Kidd: Butler trade not only answer

How does this affect Butler's fantasy value?  Will his scoring go up significantly?  I think so. He will have the luxury of playing the weak side to Nowitzki, which should offer him frequent opportunities of Dirk's double teams.  I am thinking he gets 19-20 ppg here on out.

Since: Dec 6, 2009
Posted on: February 13, 2010 5:20 pm

Kidd: Butler trade not only answer

i disagree with this trade.josh howard has been a awesome player for the small forward spot,mavs problem is center and defensive guards,harriss should have never been traded and jason kidd is an old man.we need some youth!!

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