PHILADELPHIA -- Nuggets coach George Karl sat on the scorer's table at the Wachovia Center Monday morning, perusing the box score I'd printed out and handed to him after his team's shootaround. The game in question -- the Jan. 6, 2007 game between Karl's Nuggets and the Utah Jazz -- didn't evoke any particular memories about the officiating.
"My belief has always been that refereeing in the NBA is an impossible job," Karl said. "You’re never happy."
In light of former ref Tim Donaghy's assertion Sunday night on 60 Minutes that he had conspired with two fellow crew members to officiate then-Denver star Allen Iverson unfairly in a game Donaghy had wagered on, Karl couldn't recall whether the whistle went against his team that night. But the Denver coach has very strong feelings about what the NBA and coaching community should do to combat Donaghy's allegations, which are only beginning to come to light.
The NBA, Karl said, should start fighting back.
"There’s circumstances in life that a lot of people don’t want to go into the battle, the Heat of the kitchen," Karl said. "But maybe it’s necessary right now to go in there."
Karl suggested a town-hall meeting where coaches, general managers, and league officials could address en masse Donaghy's continuing efforts to further undermine the NBA's integrity, which he damaged by betting on games -- many of which he officiated -- and passing information to gamblers. Donaghy pleaded guilty to federal conspiracy charges and was released from prison last month after serving nearly all of his 15-month sentence. The 60 Minutes interview was his first, with more national appearances to come with the release of his book detailing the scandal, "Personal Foul."
"It’s a tough place for me to comment and the league to comment," Karl said. "They should have a town hall meeting, and that one day we can say whatever we want to say and get it over with. Because if it has to linger around for the next six weeks, when the book comes out and when he’s on TV all the time, then we’re going to be responding to questions that the league probably doesn’t want us to respond to. But in this same sense, maybe there should be a forum. Let’s address this one time or two times and then let it go. For me that’s the way I would like it.
"Put 10 guys in the league or 20 guys -- two coaches, two GMs, a couple of guys from the league office, a couple of referees," Karl said. "Sit them down and have some forum of discussion on all the details and subjects so you have enough information so you can write whatever you want to write, rather than every day he tells another story or the book comes out and we’re responding to this over six weeks or eight weeks. I think it’ll become very tedious."
In the 60 Minutes interview, Donaghy said he bet on the Jazz that night because he had conspired with the other two officials -- Bernie Fryer and Gary Zielinski -- to punish Iverson with their whistles. A day earlier, Iverson had been fined $25,000 by the league for criticizing referee Steve Javie, a punishment Donaghy said the referees felt was too lenient. CBSSports.com reviewed the play-by-play and video clips of key plays Iverson was involved in and found that the Nuggets' star didn't get an unfavorable whistle. Iverson committed two fouls and drew nine in the game, attempting more free throws than any other player that night; he made 11 of 12. Also, on Iverson's 12 drives to the basket, he made two driving layups, missed four, lost the ball once, and drew five fouls.
While Karl didn't remember the officiating nuances in the game, he did point out several factors that might've compelled even the most casual gambler to pick the Jazz: Denver played without Carmelo Anthony (suspended) and Marcus Camby (hand injury). J.R. Smith also didn't play, though that was a coaching decision and wouldn't have been known prior to the game.
"There seemed to have been a lot of things that were not good for us in that game," Karl said.
The NBA has declined to make Fryer, Zielinski, or any other league official available for an interview to address Donaghy's latest allegations. Stern issued a statement after the 60 Minutes program aired dismissing Donaghy's assertions and saying that any allegations about officiating improprieties would be forwarded to former federal prosecutor Lawrence Pedowitz for review.
Karl: NBA should fight back against Donaghy
Posted on: December 7, 2009 2:41 pm
Edited on: December 7, 2009 4:04 pm
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BrownB |
Posted on: December 8, 2009 3:30 am
Karl: NBA should fight back against DonaghyI've heard from guys that grew up with Donaghy and to put it lightly, they say has always been on the short side of integrity...
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hee2 |
Posted on: December 7, 2009 10:55 pm
Karl: NBA should fight back against DonaghyI always felt that sports officials have the power to effect change. That does not mean that they exercise that power to influence outcomes. Watching the NBA over the years has made it evident to me that there is a referee culture that understands the entertainment value of the NBA product. The fact that NBA Referees are employees of the League, does not help support their impartiality. While referees grow through the ranks trained to be fair and impartial, the NBA clearly demonstrates to me that there is a different code that governs an NBA official. Marquee players are definitely protected.
Travels; palms, unsporting type behavior, are among the things that clearly distinguishes the NBA from NCAA. The allowance of blatant obscenities is an outright travesty that is only prevalent in the professional ranks. Post play and traveling are other clearly different interpretations by NBA officials. Having said all that, I would not be surprised to learn that referees do not target certain players. I would be surprised to learn that the league and its officials are corrupt and I do believe that the behavior of Tim Donaghy is isolated. I agree that there should be some open discussion between all NBA stakeholders: Referees, owners, players, coaches, sports writers etc. in a symposium type forum, to establish some clear guidelines/understandings that provide insight into the differences in philosophy of the NBA as it relates to - say - the college game, and other sports entities. What is expected from NBA officiating is an unknown entity that is different that the expectations by other NBA stakeholders - particularly fans. If NBA referees want to do it right there, should be ZERO tolerance for obscenities and other unsporting actions (established by the league and the players association) regardless of the status of the player. The NBA is one of the few sports where you get to see the behavior of its players - and it should be no different from what you see at the collegiate level. This would eliminate in large degree the retaliation factor by officials as well as improve the aesthetic value of the NBA. Thats all I have to say. |
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Scheyerfan |
Posted on: December 7, 2009 9:42 pm
Karl: NBA should fight back against DonaghyI think the NBA should fight back against Donagy. There were little truths to what he said but more holes than anything. He takes what fans accuse the NBA of and embelished on them to come up with the conspiracy. The conspiracy theoriests will love him. Not sure a town hall meeting is best. But let the officials defend themselves and explain calls and rules. The NBA not allowing them to talk makes it look like there is something to hide. I know a lot of people want to believe Donaghy but there isn't anything to his reckless allegations. And doesn't the "star call" diminish the abilities and play making of the stars? Kobe Bryant can't be happy that he is considered one of the best players because he is favored can he? Coaches, GMs and players need to fight back against Donaghy as well as the officials. And the sooner the better.
And to be honest, no matter how much they try, the NBA will never convince critics the integrity of the game. You can't prove a negative. And those so convinced a conspiracy exists will accept no facts or proof otherwise. |
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R1ZZO |
Posted on: December 7, 2009 8:13 pm
Karl: NBA should fight back against DonaghyDavid Stern is a piece of crap. This guy is the most corrupt commisioner ever. He thinks that we are all going to believe his crap. The refs in the NBA suck and I guarantee that there are still refs in the league now fixing games.
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Cobrajock11 |
Posted on: December 7, 2009 5:54 pm
Karl: NBA should fight back against DonaghyGreat point. How many blown or bad calls have turned NFL games. Just one untimely call... holding, pass interference, roughing the QB, or lack of a flag on a personal foul, if called at just the right moment, would turn a game. Not saying they do it on purpose. But theoretically, they certainly could.And your point on the strike zone, if a pitcher can hit the same spot, six inches off the plate consistently, it should still be called a ball... consistently.And the belt high strike that is always called high, ticks me off. I feel for a pitcher who has to hit a postage stamp sized strike zone and still get people out. Just have a meeting and unify the damn strike zone already.
But I have to say that basketball is impossible to watch these days. Seemingly random fouls when guys weren't even touched, are enough to make me turn the channel. You forgot to include soccer. With one ref on the field, that guy has the ultimate power to destroy a whole country's dream. Just ask Ireland. |
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ThuggetsFan |
Posted on: December 7, 2009 5:04 pm
Karl: NBA should fight back against DonaghyNot to take a jab at everyone posting, but get lets get real here. Most of the players that "get" calls go to the line a lot because they are aggressive and attack the basket. Iverson, Kobe, Shaq, Lebron, to name a few, are guys who get calls because they aren't wussies whos just sit back and take jump shots they get to the rack. NBA officials are human beings like everyone else and they are prone to make mistakes, hold grudges and interpret rules differrently just like in every other sport. If you are going to say the NBA is rigged, you gotta bring up the fifty different types of strike zones you see in baseball and the crackhead way that NFL refs call every pass play defensive intereference as well. Its not really fair to pick on just the NBA Refs!!!
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Sidd_Finch |
Posted on: December 7, 2009 4:53 pm
Karl: NBA should fight back against DonaghyCBSSports.com reviewed the play-by-play and video clips of key plays Iverson was involved in and found that the Nuggets' star didn't get an unfavorable whistle. Iverson committed two fouls and drew nine in the game, attempting more free throws than any other player that night; he made 11 of 12.It says CBSSports.com reviewed video of the game. Did 60 Minutes before running the piece? I don't know. I didn't see it. You would hope they did, but it kind of sounds like they didn't.
No way is there going to be a town hall meeting. David Stern and the NBA are going to do their best to pretend none of this stuff Donaghy is doing since his release from prison is happening. They just want this whole episode to fade away. |
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Posted on: December 7, 2009 4:40 pm
Karl: Ah yes,a" town hall meeting"Yes,a town hall meeting.That`ll do it.We`ve certainly seen the brilliance on display at other 'town hall" meetings,just hope no one shows up packing at one of theses meetings, like they did for the President of the USA. Great idea indeed
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