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Iverson back, but not in control

Posted on: December 2, 2009 11:21 am
Score: 142
 
With Ron Artest admitting in the Sporting News that he used to drink Hennessy at halftime, I'm having a hard time focusing my thoughts on Allen Iverson signing with the Sixers. But here goes.

This was a bad idea, clearly driven by business interests, not basketball sense. I think I made that pretty clear in this column.

But ...

If it has to be done, this is the way to do it. By offering Iverson a non-guaranteed deal, the Sixers take away the hammer that A.I. wielded for a decade in Philadelphia. They put the control where it belongs -- in the hands of head coach Eddie Jordan -- and take it away from Iverson. Well played by team president Ed Stefanski.

If Iverson steps out of line, tries to exert his influence on the coach, barks about playing time, or disrupts the culture Jordan is trying to build in any way, he's gone -- with no further financial obligation to the team.

The ball is in A.I.'s court, and not in the way it used to be.

With no other teams expressing interest in taking the plunge with Iverson, the Sixers forced his hand. They forced him to live up to all the promises he made in their two-hour meeting Monday. Now, for the first time in his career, he has to walk the walk. If he really doesn't care about the money or the control, the Sixers have told him to go ahead and prove it.

This part, I like -- as stated here with Lauren Shehadi.

Does Iverson still have enough left in the tank to make a difference for the 5-13 Sixers? That will be the fun part to watch. What will be even more interesting to see is whether Iverson can recognize that he can't be the dominant, 40-plus-minute force that he was in his prime. And if that's the case, how will he respond?

Given the circumstances, there's only one right Answer. Let the drama begin.

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thatlsk
Reputation: 95
Level: Superstar
Since: May 31, 2007
Posted on: December 2, 2009 12:40 pm
Score: 75
 

Iverson back, but not in control

All I want to know is if he's worth me picking him up in my fantasy basketball league.



ukblu
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Level: Superstar
Since: Mar 20, 2008
Posted on: December 2, 2009 1:26 pm
Score: 98
 

Iverson back, but not in control

If you have a roster spot I think you have to add him just to see.  The upside is huge, especially in the assists column.  Not gonna get the scoring title but worth watching to see what happens.  Keep in mind he's only 2 years removed from being a fantasy stud.  



kingtucker28
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Since: Sep 26, 2006
Posted on: December 2, 2009 1:50 pm
Score: 47
 

Iverson back, but not in control

Yes.



MemphisPhil
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Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: December 2, 2009 2:02 pm
Score: 125
 

Berger your such a typical media drone

With no other teams expressing interest in taking the plunge with Iverson, the Sixers forced his hand. They forced him to live up to all the promises he made in their two-hour meeting Monday. Now, for the first time in his career, he has to walk the walk.

Yea sure Berger this sounds all very familar to me.  I'm sure Iverson is a changed man.  I also like how you made it sound like this is a good move for the Sixers but when the Grizzlies signed him it was the worst move of the off season and it was gonna kill our young talent.  In case you forgot here's one of the things you said when he signed with Memphis :

"What's worse, his presence is going to be beneficial only in the attendance column -- not the win column. The minutes and touches Iverson will demand undoubtedly will slow the growth of the Grizzlies' younger guards, who need the experience and the burn."
What about the Sixers young guards?  I see now that he's signed with the Sixers we're not hearing none of this.  It's just how the ball is in AI's court blah, blah, blah, and how the Sixers front office is holding all the cards, blah, blah, blah. 

Can you be anymore predictable.  Keep following the crowd sheep.



BucFan34
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Level: Superstar
Since: Jun 4, 2008
Posted on: December 2, 2009 4:09 pm
Score: 83
 

Iverson back, but not in control

Why is this a bad signing? Who do they have better? Willie Green? Jrue Holiday? haha. I actually love this move for Philly. Maybe they can sneak into the playoffs.



L_Raiser
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Since: Aug 18, 2008
Posted on: December 2, 2009 5:13 pm
Score: 70
 

Iverson back, but not in control

Iverson WAS the franchise player... but now he's not. Or maybe shouldn't be... but on this team he IS b/c we suck!
This is a 2 years in a row playoff team...if they played in the west no one they wouldn't have been in the playoffs either year. Period. 
So cut the garbage about Iverson shouldn't be starting. He could beat the rest of this team 1 on 5. ESPECIALLY Lou Williams, I hate talking against the kid, but we've seen the best he's got.... and it's not starter material. IVERSON IS A HALL OF FAMER! There is no comparison in these two players.



thousandproof
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Since: Mar 27, 2008
Posted on: December 2, 2009 5:25 pm
Score: 133
 

Iverson back, but not in control

I couldn't understand why everyone says this is bad? Because everyone wanted him to crawl under a rock & die but that's not the case LMAO. What exactly have the sixers done worth while this season? Nothing until December 2nd 2009 they signed Allen Iverson. If nothing else I hope he make everyone of you eat your words & after a successful season retires off into the sunset. That's what he would like to do is finish his career on a high note. But the haters they want him to fail & they are waiting to start pointing there fingers at the first sign of frustration or him not producing. I hope for his sake & the philadelphia 76ers sake they get more wins then they would have without him. Which that won't be too hard to do. I hope they make it to the playoffs maybe 2nd or even 3rd round. Then he can retire at the top of the game & put the middle finger up to the entire league for not believing in his skills or how he could be a professional. Good luck AI make them all eat there words & welcome back.

GO SIXERS



MavTV
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Posted on: December 2, 2009 6:27 pm
Score: -213
 

Iverson back, but not in control

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I suppose it’s nice to see Iverson has so many fans here on Sportsline, but this support is surely based on something other than AI’s on-the-court performance.  And it’s also based on something other than his recent ability to get these same online fans to show up at the arena of whatever team AI is playing for and pay to buy tickets.  I’m with Berger on this one.  The addition for AI to this Sixers team is yet another failure for the franchise in their effort to return to the sort of respectability and consistent winning which they had during the Dr. J years of the late 70s and early 80s.

 

Why does everyone say AI is this bad?  Because his 10+ year record in the NBA proves this out.  Any AI “haters” out there have been created by Iverson himself.   Any honest Sixers fan with at least a half-decent memory knows how the Sixers failed to win with the team being run by AI.  We know how he killed coach after coach with his inability to run anyone’s “system.”  We know he took a thousand more shots a year than the next closest shooter on his team...thereby defining the term “ball hog.”  We know Iverson wasn’t enough of a draw toward the end of his previous tenure with the team to fill the seats with Sixers fans who wanted to spend their hard-earned dough to watch the team lose games with Iverson chucking-up 25 shots a night while his teammates stood around watching.  We know that there wasn’t a single young player who was drafted by the Sixers during the prime Iverson years who was able to develop with AI on the team, hogging the ball.  It’s no coincidence that only in the last two years have we seen the sort of promise with players like Iguodala, Speights, Young and Williams given a chance to develop.  Iverson has the unique ability to render both veteran players (Webber, Glenn Robinson, etc) and high draft pick youngsters (Van Horn, Tim Thomas, Iguodala, etc.) who surround him as relatively useless and meaningless.  Elton Brand and Jrue Holiday will soon see this phenomenon first hand. 

 

Who is this move going to benefit?  Aside from the teams on the Sixers remaining schedule this season, I suppose this deal benefits the loyal legion of AI fans.  Frankly, I’m shocked he has many…but clearly they like to post here on Sportsline.  Congrats to you guys.  You got your wish.  But please don’t confuse those folks for longtime, real Sixers fans.  We’re interested in building a winning team, not a Hall of Fame resume for one of the game’s most self-centered, me-first players of all time.          




montsho11
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Posted on: December 2, 2009 9:57 pm
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Iverson back, but not in control

This is great for A.I. and Philly.  A.I. can do his thing and show everyone what heart is all about and Philly will have a reason to watch their team.  I have always maintained that the only reason he shot so much in Philly was due to their lack of other skilled offensive players.  I've watched him play on the Olympic and All Star teams and he distributed the ball like a true PG.  I think he is going to surprise alot of people for 2 reasons.

1. I believe he still has the ability to carry a team and thrives off a challenge. 

2. I will bet that he is going to do what he has never done before and attempt to help develop the other guards on the team.



playmaker21
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